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1/28/2014

 
Some parents in Tennessee were SHOCKED to hear what their 5th grade children were asked at school.  And it wasn't asked by another student.  It was asked by the STATE of TENNESSEE!
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A furious TN mother tells this story:
My 5th grader took the PARCC practice today. Then she said they logged out of the PARCC writing and opened up a survey that asked if they have ever done drugs. One question we all were puzzled with - and I keep thinking- maybe she remembered wrong... "Have you ever been bullied for being nonsexual?" She did not even know what that meant.  It was awful. 

Our mouths were wide open as she poured out these grave details at dinner. The kids were all laughing and giggling and the teachers had to keep redirecting them to the survey. One girl was so struck by this question she fell out of her seat and rolled on the floor with giggles. They did not know what it meant. They thought it was funny. Then the questions - did you smoke pot? Do any drugs? Drink? They were all giggling and wondering what would happen if they all answered yes.  

My husband and I were horrified.

There were questions my child did not want to answer and tried to skip. But, the computer made them answer something before moving on.  This is troubling to me as well.  


So WHY were children asked these questions???
Well, the Tennessee Department of Education was awarded a discretionary grant from the U.S. Department of Education to "support district and school measurement of, and targeted programmatic interventions to improve, conditions for learning." (Note: Momma Bears have come to realize that a "Government Grant" ALWAYS has strings attached.  It means they will do things that we wouldn't allow them to do without the grant money as bribery, like Racing to the Top, common core, and paying outrageous salaries to "consultants").  Tennessee is one of 11 states that were awarded this grant, but Tennessee is the only state that has developed its own survey to determine conditions for learning and that intend to "connect academic data to the conditions for learning data."  

Anyway, this grant awarded by the US Department of Education (that's important to note, file that in the back of your head) paid for a slick website, some people to create invasive surveys to anonymously collect personal information about our children, and staff to run the program.  Government wastefulness and invasion of privacy at its finest, ladies and gentlemen! (Click HERE to see the website for yourself)

What were those questions that had students giggling in embarrassment and parents blushing in horror? 
Momma Bears found the surveys.  There are 2 different surveys (Middle School & High School), each containing 88 personal questions.  We couldn't really tell a difference between the 2 surveys, other than the title page.  
Asked of 5th graders:
"During this school year, how often has anyone called you an insulting or bad name at school having to do with...
...your sexuality?"  (These are 10 year old children!!!)
...your religion?"  (None of the government's business!)
...your weight or physical appearance?"  (Are you trying to give the kids an inferiority complex?)
...how much money your family makes?"  (Again, none of your beeswax, government!)

"In the last 30 days, I...
...used or tried tobacco products"
...drank alcohol"
...drank five or more servings of alcohol in a row"
...used or tried maijuana"
...used or tried other drugs or substances to get high"

"I think that...
...students are sometimes distracted in class because they are drunk or high." (some children don't know what "high" means!)
...it makes me uncomfortable when other students bring drugs or alcohol to school or school-sponsored events."  (really? well, let's just plant some ideas in their young minds!)

And, in case students don't know what these terms mean, they go ahead and educate them by including all sorts of examples at the top of the survey.  If your child didn't know they could sniff products to get high, they sure know now...  Thank you, government!

NOTE:  Not every school district in TN is giving these climate surveys (Click HERE to see if your county does)  This climate survey is NOT a part of the common core PARCC testing.  It just happened that this school gave both the climate survey as the same day as the common core writing assessment.

Click HERE to download the Middle School Climate Survey
Click HERE to download the High School Climate Survey
Did we mention that PARENTS WERE NOT NOTIFIED OR EVEN ASKED FOR CONSENT BEFORE THEIR CHILDREN WERE GIVEN THESE SURVEYS?  Sorry, Momma Bears isn't yelling (although, we're pretty steaming mad over this!).  That part in capital letters is very important.  Because, you see, the State of TN and that school have broken a law.
(Note: The Mom above is unsure if she or her husband gave permission at the beginning of the year with all the registration forms they signed. If they did, they certainly did not understand the types of questions that would be asked of their child.)

The Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA) clearly states that parents must give WRITTEN consent BEFORE any surveys funded by the U.S. Department of Education are given to minor children:
The Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA) (20 U.S.C. § 1232h; 34 CFR Part 98) applies to programs that receive funding from the U.S. Department of Education (ED). PPRA is intended to protect the rights of parents and students in two ways:

  • It seeks to ensure that schools and contractors make instructional materials available for inspection by parents if those materials will be used in connection with an ED-funded survey, analysis, or evaluation in which their children participate; and

    It seeks to ensure that schools and contractors obtain written parental consent before minor students are required to participate in any ED-funded survey, analysis, or evaluation that reveals information concerning:
    1. 1. Political affiliations;
      2. Mental and psychological problems potentially embarrassing to the student and his/her family;
      3. Sex behavior and attitudes;
      4. Illegal, anti-social, self-incriminating and demeaning behavior;
      5. Critical appraisals of other individuals with whom respondents have close family relationships;
      6. Legally recognized privileged or analogous relationships, such as those of lawyers, physicians, and ministers; or
      7. Income (other than that required by law to determine eligibility for participation in a program or for receiving financial assistance under such program).
Parents or students who believe their rights under PPRA may have been violated may file a complaint with ED by writing the Family Policy Compliance Office. Complaints must contain specific allegations of fact giving reasonable cause to believe that a violation of PPRA occurred.

For additional information or technical assistance, you may call (202) 260-3887 (voice). Individuals who use TDD may call the Federal Information Relay Service at 1-800-877-8339. Or you may contact us at the following address:

Family Policy Compliance Office
U.S. Department of Education
400 Maryland Avenue, SW
Washington, D.C. 20202-5920


(click HERE to visit the US Department of Education website where we found that law)

Okay, so some parents may be thinking... "What's the big deal?  It is a rough world out there. Those kids will learn about illegal drugs and sex soon enough."  Well, some parents have conservative values and we don't want our children exposed to these topics at this age or in this manner.  Parents should be the ones doing the educating about those issues, not the government.  Parents should be the ones to decide when that time is right for their child. 

And some parents may be thinking... "What's the big deal?  Those were anonymous surveys so they aren't really collecting personally identifiable data on my child."  Someone is collecting that information to use for some purpose.  And the time spent taking the 88 question survey is time that our kids could be learning.  Anonymous or not, Momma Bears are suspicious of surveys given to our kids.  Momma Bears has another personal Demographic Survey that we bet you didn't know about, and this one has each student's name directly tied to their answers:  


THE PLAN PRE-TEST ASSESSMENT:
The PLAN PRE-TEST is given to 10th graders in TN to predict how they will do on the all-important ACT college entrance exam.  These are definitely NOT anonymous.  When students take this PLAN test, they are asked about an hour's worth of demographic questions.  Parents aren't allowed to see those questions, but our children told us there are questions about: religious denomination, class schedule, address, GPA, Honors, if your parents are divorced, who do you live with, ethnicity/race, etc.  Like the computerized climate surveys above, students could not skip questions they didn't want to answer.  Not only are there personal questions, districts can also develop up to 30 local questions to add to the demographic survey part. (Click HERE to read more about the PLAN).  

It is important to note that:
  • A business could never ask those questions of someone applying for a job.
  • Adults have more protections than students do.
  • The penalty for breaking the PPRA law is a slap on the wrist.

Where is this information going?  Who knows.  Is it safe?  Nothing is safe these days.  Even major retail stores, like Target, and major Banks can't keep personal information secure.  In fact, click HERE to see some scary security violations with students' personal information recently here in Tennessee schools!  Yes, prisoners had access to private student information.

GAGGLE:
Another thing Momma Bears needs to warn you about is something called "Gaggle."  In some districts, students in TN are required to sign up for a Gaggle account.  This sounds like a neat program for safe online learning, but it gets a bit suspicious when they won't allow parents to have their child's password to see what is going on.  Even creepier, Gaggle has a "Human Monitoring Service."  Its website says that Gaggle's HMS team has "uncovered bullying, drug use, threats of school violence, teen depression, suicidal intentions, and abusive domestic situations."  So, strangers are snooping on our children's private information, but parents can't see it?  Unless a formal Law Enforcement Request is made, HMS data will be released only to the district contacts, and not parents.   (Click HERE to find out about Gaggle)


What can you do about it?
Be vigilant, Momma Bears!  Send a letter to your child's teacher and principal stating your child is not to be given any surveys or sign up for any online learning programs without your written permission.  Ask to see the survey or program before you give permission, and be sure to ask who has access to the information.  Before you sign anything, read the fine print.

Momma Bears, protect your babies!  It is a scary world out there!!!
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Added 1/30/14:

Has your child been given an inappropriate survey without your consent? or required to join websites that parents are not allowed access to?  If so, Momma Bears wants to hear from you.  Please contact us privately through our website's contact form:   http://www.mommabears.org/contact-us.html 
A group of TN parents are considering a class action lawsuit.


UPDATE BLOG to this inappropriate Climate Survey blog:
         http://www.mommabears.org/blog/update-inappropriate-climate-surveys-in-tn


Joan Grim
1/28/2014 07:43:26 am

Who are all of these third party vendors gathering data about our children? Who owns Gaggle and PLAN, some entity in The Ukraine? TN DoEd is the Wild West of personal data collection.

Patrick lilley
1/28/2014 05:41:15 pm

You can thank Ron Ramsey primarily. They really are trying to destroy the public school system in Tennessee. It's getting real close to naziism. For crying out loud, we just want our kids to be able to come to school. Now, these religious fanatics are going to teach creationism. They're gonna telomere kids that the earth is 6000 years old and all kinds of crap. We are number 21 in math and science
Just give them math and science. I'll teach them about the bible and God, thank you. These senators are godless, unholy drunkards and wife beater and Pharisees of today. Keep voting republican, you're kid will say something at school one day and they'll come arrest you for Heresy. Naziism.

Mike Lindsey link
1/31/2014 05:20:54 am

I resemble that remark about "religious fanatics," 'cause, I am a Jesus fan! I'd just like to say that evolution is just as "religious" as creationism without any REAL observable evidence (is it a common ancestor or a common Designer?) and one just has to make a choice based upon what present evidence and real facts we have available to us. The only difference is that the secular humanist religion of evolution is funded by the government in our schools. Folks get REAL mad when their "sacred cow" of evolution doesn't get the reverence they think it deserves and they lash out at "religious fanatics." The reason why our schools are failing is because kids aren't motivated to find that they are just an accidental occurrence of the universe, an advanced animal that evolved over eons of time from a "primordial soup" (that doesn't sound very appealing), rather than a created being in the image of a holy God who loves them and cares about them. They are taught that there is no "black and white" (right and wrong). It's all relative to the person and one should "just do what feels right to you" and they are instructed to "just follow your heart." So when a young person "feels like" shooting up a school, that person doesn't think it's all that bad, 'cause, their just killing off a few "animals." By the way, I'm not Rep or Dem, but I do try to vote to the best of my ability according to God's Word. And it's very hard to find someone worth voting for anymore.

Jon Colson
3/1/2014 03:29:53 pm

Three things:
1. Not one republican voter that I know supports this garbage. I do know several democrats who do, though.
2. If you think that there is one bit of difference between the parties, you are not paying attention. The entire spectrum of politicians has shifted to the left. We have Democrats and Remocrats. They hold hands behind the scenes and work together to invade our privacy and remove our rights...in public they pretend to oppose each other.
3. If you truly want to change the direction of this country, show up at the primaries and vote against he incumbents. I do not care which party you belong to. The incumbents are driving us down the wrong road. If we unite to fire the lot, then the next batch will listen to the people because they will fear for their job. They have not feared for their job for decades. The beauty of doing this in the primary is that you can still vote for your party in the general. The primary is the only place to really change Congress.

Joan Grim
1/28/2014 07:59:14 am

'Its website says that Gaggle's HMS team has "uncovered bullying, drug use, threats of school violence, teen depression, suicidal intentions, and abusive domestic situations."'

Wow. Gaggle is magical. Who needs a real teacher, a school psychologist, or a guidance counselor when we have Gaggle's HMS team?

Sandy Wells
1/28/2014 10:04:28 pm

That is truly magical! Parents not having access to what their children are doing or learning- online or not- is scary and unacceptable in my world! Thinking that some mysterious entity of "they" are going to diagnose and fix all our children's problems is as insane as thinking that our children can be educated solely through computers and internet technology. Oh wait, can that be?

Kari
1/28/2014 10:44:01 am

Hi! Thanks for this post. Have you contacted Safe and Supportive Schools to ask them about this survey? If so, can you please share their response?

Jane
1/28/2014 07:52:51 pm

The State of Michigan has an on-line test similar to this one. It's called the MI-PHY. My daughter's charter school gave it to my 6th grade daughter without my permission. I later learned that parents were supposed to be given the opportunity to opt-out and that whether or not to give the test was up to the district.
I think the on-line nature of this test is particularly insidious because, as you noted, children must answer the question before proceeding to the next one which makes it impossible to "pass" on any of them.

VIckie
1/28/2014 10:48:35 pm

There was a 10 year old little girl whom used to live next door to me. I have moved. She had older sisters that did not do the things that she did. This little girl at 10 was smoking drinking and wearing clothes no child or adult should wear. Yes it is sad most kids at that age have no clue put some do. No of us like to hear this or in want to fathom that this could happen but it does! I don't want or I should say didn't want my kids being ask things like this either! Nor would I want my grandchildren. But kids like this probably won't even tell the truth. Funny thing is there attitude will give them away.

BRENDA
1/28/2014 11:20:59 pm

I STILL SAY TAKE YOUR CHILD OUT OF SCHOOL SYSTEM. WHEN THIS STUFF HAPPENS. IT'S YOUR CHILD.

Penny Boyd
1/31/2014 12:40:45 am

If this happens, I simply go to school, observe the actions, and take my children out of public school, evenif I have to go to work outside the home, I may consider homeschooling!

Tony
1/29/2014 12:43:44 am

I understand trying to protect your kids, I really do. But I have to tell you, kids of 10 and 11 years' age know more about these things than we may think. Heck, when *I* was in sixth grade and attending a very rural school (over 40 years ago) there were two occasions that year where children were found having sex at school. And as a former drug/alcohol counselor, several of my clients started drinking or using drugs at ages ranging from 10 to 14.

It's not unreasonable to start asking some of these questions. The method, maybe, was unfortunate. But whether you want to believe it or not, kids DO get exposed to drugs, alcohol, sex, and tobacco at earlier ages than you may think. And if school systems can find out about such things, they can better tailor systems to help fight these things.

I know the Momma Bears probably are all good parents. As a former teacher, I can tell you that most parents of students are NOT as involved or vigilant. Since those parents are either not able, or not willing, to parent well, it becomes part of the school's responsibility to try to fix things that parents should have dealt with at home.

dave link
1/30/2014 04:44:48 am

yes some of the parents today could care less about what goes on with there child at school and even when i was in school 50 yrs ago it was going on (sex,drugs) but the goverment doesn,t have the wright to pry into everybodys business . parent should keep better watch on their children's activitys I mean the ones that don,t teach their child the biblical laws of life,and don,t live a life that show their kids how to be.If so we wouldn have as much crime and illiterate people in the world .parents are responsible for their children.NOT THE GOVERMENT OR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM

MANDY
1/30/2014 05:04:26 am

NO IT IS NOT the schools responsibility to try and fix things TONY and it is MY decision to teach my child about drugs, sex and alcohol. If there is a problem or if you want to know something then ask me not my kid - boy am I hot under the collar about this one.

Andrea
1/30/2014 08:03:16 am

YES, Mandy. Public schools have to look out for the health and safety of their students. School employees have to report when kids come to school having used drugs, having been abused, having been neglected. I am glad your kids have a Momma Bear looking out for them. Many, many, many kids do not. The school system, however flawed, may be the only adults looking out for them. Ten year olds in crisis aren't going to get help if the adults neglecting them are the only ones asked if there are problems at home. Believe me, if your kids are in class with other kids in crisis, they've seen what some of these kids have to go through. As unpleasant as this situation seems, maybe you can turn the situation around and use it to begin to talk with your kids about staying safe as they get older. Good luck to all of you.

Tony
1/30/2014 08:49:03 am

So sorry you are hot under the collar, but get a grip. YOU may be a wonderful mom... I don't know. But there are a LOT of parents out there who don't know good parenting from an issue of PEOPLE magazine, and quite frankly, the schools have to take up the slack. If you don't like it, then take your kids out of school and home-school them, or put them in a private school where they won't get "exposed" to all the stuff they really need to know.

You need to wake up and smell the coffee. Schools are designed, and MUST, educate to the level needed by the majority of those in attendance. If you don't want your kids to have this information, then you need to be proactive about it as I said above. (Although why you would NOT want your kids to know about bullying and the dangers of tobacco, drugs, unprotected sex, and alcohol, is beyond understanding.)

MidSouth Mitch
1/30/2014 11:10:18 pm

AMEN, Mandy!

melanie
1/30/2014 08:11:56 am

The point is that a government, that has the power to take your children away for "any" reason, has no business questioning my child, period, without my consent or me being present. The government is not god, not a parent, and certainly is not a friend. They need to back away from trampling my rights as a parent to rear my child how I see fit. I will be homeschooling next year. Nazism is king of questioning children and using what the child says against the parents. Children say the "darnedest" things. I am not willing to take that gamble with this rogue federal government.

Karen
1/31/2014 11:30:30 am

Why must 80 to 90 percent of the happy to stay innocent children have to be exposed to the topics mentioned here just because a few other students are practicing behaviors inappropriate to their age?

bondservant
1/29/2014 02:01:54 am

"Parents should be the ones doing the educating about those issues, not the government." Couldn't agree more. But - just like our tax dollars being used for things we don't agree with - why are parents always surprised when the government school they send their children to teach them what it wants to?

Vikki Rosich
1/29/2014 02:22:57 am

I am in MI, but things like this alert me to things that will happen in our state. Why are parents ok with this? Answer... the are too lazy to do the work to find out themselves. They will just let someone else deal with it. Get involved parents!

D Huswick link
1/29/2014 07:24:41 am

It is alarming to me that this Momma Bear kept saying, "These kids didnt know what this meant. Then why were they giggling? AND you have to be a an extremely protected society with no media if your children dont know way more than they should about sex, alcohol and drugs. I wish it werent so. I wish we hadnt allowed innocence to die. I wish we protected our children more and there were no predators out there. But I can't fault the school system for wanting to know anonymously what problems they need to deal with in order to provide safety and the proper education. If your school takes federal money, you will do what they say and as far as Im concerned they have no business in education.

Marie
1/29/2014 04:48:13 pm

Other surveys students re being asked to take: The Boys Scout Survey;
And another website parents are excluded from but !teachers! have access to students through this network is Zuemo. This social network is supposed to be monitored by teachers - I just do not have time. I have to keep up with my own personal real live birthed children first when it comes to a social network.

Lucid Gal
1/29/2014 09:31:59 pm

Does anyone know who is the outside contractor that was paid with grant funds to develop the survey?

Kelly
1/29/2014 10:27:04 pm

When it comes to children being bullied all of those questions apply to 5th grade or 10 years of age. They get bullied because of their weight, they get bullied because other kids perceive them as "gay" whether they are or not.They get bullied because they don't have the right close or come from a poor family. They get bullied if they don't go to "the right church". The survey was asking them if they had been bullied for those reasons, I don't have a problem with that.

Drugs and alcohol do become a problem very early, I personally know of third grade children who have come to school with drugs and an 8 year old who was drinking. It happens, not all children have a beautiful life with great parents.

Vicky
1/30/2014 12:11:27 am

Thank you for this article. My daughter is in the 10th grade this year, and I had no idea the PLAN test collected all this information. Of course, she has already taken it so there is nothing I can do about it now. I can do something about my younger child though. It amazes me how many parents just don't care about any of this!

Linda C. Mainord
1/30/2014 03:12:58 am

Parents need to be more aware of what is going on with their children ask questions, go to school, be involved with your children. Please don't just take every thing the school system says as law and gospel. Have guts enough to stand up for you child, if you don't who will.

Tammy
1/30/2014 10:17:49 am

This is excellent advice for any parent anywhere who is asked about their children being given a demographic survey for any reason. A few years ago I was asked if my son could take a demographic survey for 4-H to help a student with his or her thesis. Same type of thing. There were wholly inappropriate questions on the survey that we had been told were going to relate to 4-H. It was a paper form and no personal information was included, but the questions were not what we expected. No surveys have been requested since then.

Christi
1/30/2014 04:34:15 pm

We live in Alaska. My 6th and 7th graders came home telling me they had to have a gaggle acct at school. When I looked at it, every single child's ID and full name are listed as an email contact. Besides my child's privacy out in the open, there is the ability to send mass emails to the whole school. Sounds like a direct way for bullying, depression, and a potential for an angry child with mass shooter tendencies waiting to happen. I immediately sent an email to the school staff members and will be calling and then visiting the school as soon as they open tomorrow. My children do not take part in social media for a reason. I will not be forced to have my child participate. Doing this without parental permission is a low trick in my opinion. When did the public school system decide they could parent my child?

David
1/31/2014 03:38:47 am

even though i do not have any children but i will say this is so wrong who do these teachers thinking giving kids this kind of survey public schools makes me so sick.

Karen Bracken link
1/31/2014 06:14:56 am

Parents join us in the fight to stop the thef our children's hearts, minds and souls. If you don't stand up now the day will come when you will not be able to fight for your children. They are already looking at adults like breeders for the new world economy. They look at our children as future employees for Microsoft, GE etc. We are all just human capital for these criminals. Stand up now!!! Join Tennessee Against Commone Core at www.tnacc.net and help us stop Common Core this year.

Karen Bracken link
1/31/2014 06:15:42 am

I cannot get these surveys to print out. Does someone have them in a format that can be printed. SCRIBD is a mess.

Susan
1/31/2014 09:39:50 am

We need to teach our children what to watch out for. Stranger Danger, when people in authority might take advantage of them, Things they can say or do. "May I call my parents" I do not feel comfortable with this test, these questions. Talk with a social worker or family court attorney and let the school know up front to take note, you will be watching them. To never stay alone or behind in a class room to always have a witness to any encounter. Just saying

Ann
1/31/2014 10:24:57 pm

How long has it been since you have read Animal Farm...do you remember when the puppies were born..they were taken from the mothers in the name of education. Does anyone remember how that turned out!

clint
2/1/2014 12:15:28 am

I understand the concern reflected in this blog. But it loses credibility when it either mistakenly or purposefully confuses the questions under the section "Asked of 5th Graders". The question was have you been BULLIED because of your religion or sexual orientation. But the author of this blog writes snarky answers as though the government is intrusively prying. I don't believe the author here to lack intelligence so that only leaves divisive fear-mongering and anti-government hate stoking as the motive...and that is disappointing.

worsey
2/1/2014 12:21:15 am

According to Yahoo statement, it is suspected that a third party is responsible for the hacking of Yahoo Mail. If they can get into a site that is as secure as Yahoo, just think what other sites they can get into. I agree. These surveys are not for our kids. What are they hiding and who gets the info? In my opinion, this is just another way for the government to breach the privacy policy. I don't have kids in school, but I do have grandkids and I am urging their parents to refuse these surveys. If enough of the parents stand up for this and the Common Core, it has to be done away with. I AM ONLY ONE, BUT THERE IS STRENGTH IN NUMBERS, so let us band together and get rid of this crap.

namerequired
2/3/2014 08:26:08 am

They gave me a very similar survey at my high school. I feel like it was appropriate for us 9th graders, but the test should be revised for younger students, especially for those not even in middle school.

Tiffany Lessigne
2/16/2014 12:56:11 am

My 9th grader took a survey I'm presuming this may have been it because many of the questions matched this survey. My concern is that as an adult I don't do surveys like these cause I believe it goes against my privacy. And I don't have anything to hide by not doing this survey. My concern is that a person should have legal counsel when answering some of these questions. as an adult many would not answer these. you should live your life honestly but sometimes things happen that you weren't planning on or mistakes were made. and sometimes the innocent are found guilty. as these surveys come up our children should be taught to think about what they are answering too. maybe a student did try drugs once but no longer on them. can this later come up to hurt them in a job interview. or if they are going to run for public office?


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